<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post4591408969240787871..comments</id><updated>2008-05-30T19:56:34.237-05:00</updated><category term='book reviews'/><category term='class size'/><category term='education research'/><category term='achievement gap'/><category term='book recommendations'/><category term='accountability'/><category term='new ideas'/><category term='NCLB'/><category term='school spending'/><category term='national standards'/><category term='private schools'/><category term='alternative certification'/><category term='international comparisons'/><category term='grades'/><category term='Teachers and Policy'/><category term='charter schools'/><category term='school reform'/><category term='Dept. of Ed.'/><category term='performance pay'/><category term='school climate'/><category term='unions'/><category term='education roundtable'/><category term='Teaching'/><category term='teacher retention'/><category term='my research'/><category term='vouchers'/><category term='pedagogy'/><category term='teacher quality'/><category term='schools and businesses'/><category term='BPINI'/><category term='discipline'/><category term='student motivation'/><category term='self-control'/><category term='higher ed'/><category term='Sunday Commentary'/><category term='dropouts'/><category term='teacher buy-in'/><category term='things that work'/><category term='random thoughts'/><category term='public reaction'/><category term='home schooling'/><category term='standardized testing'/><category term='Teach for America'/><category term='social policy'/><category term='health'/><category term='content'/><category term='Tales from the Trenches'/><category term='poverty'/><title type='text'>Comments on Thoughts on Education Policy: Defending the Indefensible</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/feeds/4591408969240787871/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html'/><author><name>Corey Bunje Bower</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09764159604965707919</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>6</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-1469495448350684081</id><published>2008-05-30T19:56:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T19:56:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Corey, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm glad you posted on this inci...</title><content type='html'>Hi Corey, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'm glad you posted on this incident. Parents routinely admit that they say things they don't mean in heated moments, and teachers, as the parent for 7 hours a day, will inevitably do so. Make no mistake - it was nasty and wrong, and the teacher owes that child a heartfelt apology. If it happens more than a few times, maybe the teacher should consider another profession. &lt;BR/&gt;I have heard much worse things in schools, and my brother, who works in the ER, tells amazing tales about doctors labeling patients as "circling the drain" in earshot of their families. But we hear a lot more about these "terrible teachers" than we do about those who make mistakes in other professions.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/1469495448350684081'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/1469495448350684081'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212195360000#c1469495448350684081' title=''/><author><name>eduwonkette</name><uri>www.eduwonkette.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1397098537'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4713898785227855761</id><published>2008-05-30T19:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T19:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Great blog! I linked your post.  Here's my perspec...</title><content type='html'>Great blog! I linked your post.  Here's my perspective:&lt;BR/&gt;http://wheresthesun.org/2008/05/31/alex-barton-yet-another-interesting-perspective/</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/4713898785227855761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/4713898785227855761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212192600000#c4713898785227855761' title=''/><author><name>AwayWeGo!</name><uri>wheresthesun.org</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-178476391'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-2341904626234252387</id><published>2008-05-30T14:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T14:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Morgan, you scared me.  That Slate Article is abou...</title><content type='html'>Morgan, you scared me.  That Slate Article is about a different (even worse) situation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks Robert.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/2341904626234252387'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/2341904626234252387'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212174420000#c2341904626234252387' title=''/><author><name>Corey Bunje Bower</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09764159604965707919</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-465830191'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4672935617346393068</id><published>2008-05-30T13:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T13:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; Good post.  My question was rhetorica...</title><content type='html'>&lt;&lt;&lt; Good post.  My question was rhetorical, since I agree with you.  This is a lot more common than people who've never worked in schools realize, but I will say that going off on a 5-year old is beyond the pale, clearly.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think most teachers(I'd include myself in this camp)who work in difficult schools with serious behavior problems tend to start off as screamers before learning more effective approaches.  But since you're sticking your neck out, I'll have your back.  There are two types of teachers: those who admit to saying things they regret while teaching, and those who refuse to admit it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Robert Pondiscio</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/4672935617346393068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/4672935617346393068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212172740000#c4672935617346393068' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1942627699'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-5486983562590233303</id><published>2008-05-30T13:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T13:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>FWIW, Slate recently got a hold of the incident re...</title><content type='html'>FWIW, Slate recently got a hold of the incident report, which doesn't make the teacher sound good at all. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.slate.com/id/2192480/entry/2192481/</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/5486983562590233303'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/5486983562590233303'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212171000000#c5486983562590233303' title=''/><author><name>morgan</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1922908606'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-719729460914842335</id><published>2008-05-30T13:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T13:06:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>way to be the contrarian, Corey.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The teac...</title><content type='html'>way to be the contrarian, Corey.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The teacher clearly screwed up and I think her actions went beyond the normal levels of saying/doing something you with you hadn't.  I would love to hear what the teacher has to say (what she says about it would help show if she is someone who really shouldn't be teaching or just had a really bad day).  I also am really curious about the two dissenting kids - do they just have a really developed sense of fairness, or was their some other reason why they defied their classmates and their teacher?  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I actually have, to my mind, a way worse story.  A teacher at my old school, who was universally regarded as terrible had a miscarriage earlier this year and, according to several teachers still at the school, told the class it was their fault, on more than one occasion.  My hope is she regretted saying it but was too proud/stubborn to apologize for it.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/719729460914842335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/4591408969240787871/comments/default/719729460914842335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html?showComment=1212170760000#c719729460914842335' title=''/><author><name>morgan</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2008/05/defending-indefensible.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458172893016186479.post-4591408969240787871' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5458172893016186479/posts/default/4591408969240787871' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-592307069'/></entry></feed>
